
M: written by /u/bluebirddo all mods should go to them
I want to propose a question to you all, let you think about it, and then give my rationale.
Do we want a Cesar or a Cincinnatus?
It’s a simple question, but one that requires the context of these two ideals, and an approach to both
I’m sure we all know who Gaius Julius Cesar is or have at least the name. Known as a great statesman, Cesar had incredibly humble beginnings. Starting life out as an orphan whose once-great family chose the wrong side in a devastating civil war, he built his way up politically through the military, eventually becoming consul of the roman republic. The man was the last of the republicans however, when he won a civil war against the rival faction, he acquired a godly amount of power in the empire, and used that power to rule absolutely. His name is known quite well in the aspects of history, great kings name their titles after him, The Kaiser, the Czar are both taken from Cesar.
A less well-known figure is Cincinnatus. But let that not deter you from his greatness. Born a plebian, a Roman peasant, he gained extensive power in a military coup much like his predecessor. He spent years dedicated to removing all those who stood in his path, made like better through authority much like his predecessor. But something that separates his story from Caesars is that Cinncinatus gave it all up. He brought back republican ideals in a time where Rome had forgotten about them, gradually he gave all the power back to the citizenry, and he is respected greatly for that. Cincinnatus’s story might not be as influential to you, but our revolutionary history was majorly influenced by his tutelage. In the United States, we have a city named after the man, Cincinnati. But a much larger influence was put on our first founding father. Like Cincinnatus before him, Washington gave up his power after the war. The man could’ve been king and that is incredibly not looked upon in our society. Washington even founded a society dedicated to those who fought in the revolution, he named it the society of the Cincinnati.
Power is always to come to the executive in times of crisis, this is a fact, we sign away freedoms for safety. But is it better as a society to have a Cesar or a Cincinnati?
I argue that Cesar is better than a Cincinnati. This is because we are human after all. We must acknowledge that although we may value these men differently; they are of the same stock, and want the same things out of life, the same things we most likely want out of life. Wealth, prosperity, and security. What stands in the way of that as a leader is enemies, and in circumstances like the greats men where that enemy isn’t a threat, a larger one grows, for every tyrant that was thrown out of the Roman senate, there were 3000 in the fields. The citizenry was ultimately the biggest threat to these men’s goals.
So if that is the case, how did Cesar retain his power? To put it simply, he never stopped being a tyrant. Bread and circuses, and constant procurement of new territory made the peak of the roman empire. A despot cannot rest on their laurels, because that is when all hell breaks loose.
Cincinnatus was in a tighter spot historically, Rome was on a decline already, and he couldn’t do much to regain where Cesar left off, so he did the smartest thing he could for his legacy, he relinquished his control so it wasn’t his problem.
I might also defend my answer by acknowledging this, what is to stop a Cesar from succeeding a Cincinnatus? Does anyone believe Cincinnatus stopped dictatorships or despots? Power cannot dissipate easily, especially among the public consciousness.
Having a Cincinnatus marks something more drastic. The end of a time. Gorbachov is a prime example of this. The man knew that his position was already under fire, and did liberalize his administration from his predecessors to mitigate what was to occur next. He was overthrown, but his policy saved him from becoming the next martyr of the communist cause. But to my previous point, we can see today his liberalization and the erasure of the communist presence did nothing to stop another Cesar from coming to power in the former soviet union. We can even mark this Cesar as more of a dictator than his predecessor.
Our federal branch isn’t despotic, or tyrannical like the examples above, but it would be ignorant to say the same ideas do not apply. I worry about what will come with the dissolution of powers given to the feds, I don’t like the fact that the government has control over us, but I accept crucialness of the government retaining that power. To put it simply, if and when extensions of the federal government are weakening significantly, it will mark a much greater, more devastating occasion.
So for our sake, let’s just hope that our Cesar is benevolent, but not enough to relinquish the power given to him.






